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Anyone know how to say 'Pigs can fly'?

Hello out there !
I think the word "knabo" has been created from the german word
"knabe" which means exaclty the same than "boy".
greetings
silenco

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Good luck.

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Thanks for the tip.

JTG

Another Esperanto grammar lescionojn....
"You are an ugly camel" is actually "Vi estas malbellan kamelon", since "camel" or "kamelo" is the direct object.
At least that's what the Esperanto Language proggy is telling me....

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I'm sorry, Strange Raine, but your information is all wet! The verb 'to be' is known grammatically as a 'copula' verb, and NEVER takes a direct object. Only transitive verbs take direct objects (accusative case).
'You are an ugly camel, your breath smells bad, and your hump is too small' would be:
'Vi estas malbela kamelo (or fem.: kamelino), via spira?o malbone odoras, kaj via ?ibo estas tro malgranda'.

One can easily be very inventive in making up insults (and compliments!) in Esperanto because of the building-block structure of the language. (I think you might have got the original sentence from a naughty site about 'Talking dirty in Esperanto' - I won't give the url in case I get banished from here, but I'm sure you could find it with a little persistence).

No, I was taking courses in the language. Got a tutor and everything.
And for future reference, American and English grammar are useless with other languages. In fact, in Esperanto, I can mix up an entire sentence and as long as the direct object ends in "n" then it is perfectly understandable. Japanese sentence structure would also make a high school grammar teacher flip out.

And Knabe has the same origin as the English word knave.

"The verb 'to be' is known grammatically as a 'copula' verb."

Not true. In English, the copula and the existential are performed by the same verb, to be, but in other languages they can be different. Spanish has two different verbs for the copula and the existential. Irish has a verb for the existential, and a different construction altogether for the copula.

Wikipedia is actually very good at explaining the Irish copula.

I must ask my Esperanto tutor (I'm taking a free online course from http://pacujo.net/esperanto/course/ ) whether I'm right, but I suspect that in Esperanto the copula and the existential are both the same verb (esti), but that the copula form takes no direct object, having two subjects, while the existential form does take a direct object.

So, "You're an ugly camel." = "Vi estas malbelan kamelon."

But I could well be wrong.

(I don't see any need for the feminine form, /kamelino/, unless it's intended as an insult to a small boy (from another small boy). From what I've read, the neuter form is preferred unless you're trying to make a point or to clarify something.)

TRiG.

>Probably the hardest words in Esperanto for anglophones to speak are those that begin with "sc" - this ends up making a "ss-ts" sound, which is tricky to pronounce.

Don't see why you have such problems with this, if you are able to say 'nest see us' correctly in English. There you almost have 'ne scias'! The only unusual thing is that the sound of 'sc-' is not a word-initial combination in English. Most English-speakers in my experience seem to have greater problems keeping their vowels pure (especially 'e' and 'o'), without turning them into diphthongs. Both just take a bit of practice.

For a model pronunciation of Esperanto, try listening to one of the daily Esperanto broadcasts from Radio Polonia: http://www.polskieradio.pl/eo/

Hi, don't know if you're still keen to learn about Esperanto?

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Good luck! Or Bonan Sancon!

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