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Post 1

Ratus

Started conversation May 17, 2001

The inanity of football chants brings to mind the old axiom:

Cricket is a gentleman's sport played by hooligans,
Rugby is a hooligan's sport played by gentlemen, but
[Association] Football is a hooligan's sport played by hooligans. smiley - winkeye

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Post 2

Eusebio - squad number 11

Posted May 17, 2001

I always thought it was :-

rugby is a gentleman's game played by hooligans
football is a hooligan's game played by gentlemen

perhaps someone can find the correct quote for us!

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Post 3

Bagpuss

Posted May 18, 2001

No, rugby is a game for hooligans played by gentlemen
football is a game for gentlemen played by hooligans.

When did you last hear of a rugby match marred by violence?

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Post 4

Eusebio - squad number 11

Posted May 18, 2001

Apart from ON the field?

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Post 5

Bagpuss

Posted May 18, 2001

Hey, that's allowed. smiley - smiley Admittedly there has been some trouble at Rugby recently, but it's not as bad as football. At Headingley, where the Leeds Rhinos play, they don't have any of the barriers up to stop opposing fans meeting, which they do at foottie grounds.

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Post 6

Ed Morrish

Posted May 18, 2001

No, they use a group of yellow-jacketed stewards to separate fans at football matches these days. (Except when Millwall play, when a fleet of rhinos are employed.)

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Post 7

Eusebio - squad number 11

Posted May 18, 2001

No, barriers aren't erected at any ground these days.
At Bangor City - the two opposing sets of fans even change ends at half-time!!

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Post 8

Bagpuss

Posted May 18, 2001

Oh, my mistake.

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Post 9

riotact : like a phoenix from the ashes

Posted Apr 26, 2004

this is the true wording of the expression, but it is a reflection of class prejudice, not reality; it dates from the time when rugby was an amateur toff's sport and football was either working class or professional.

the hooliganism connected with football does not come from the players. no rule requires a team to knock the ball out when an opponent is injured, nor to give the ball back to the team which did so when play resumes. it is simply "done". what could be more gentlemanly?

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Post 10

Saints 76

Posted Sep 20, 2010

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Post: 7

Posted May 18, 2001 by Eusebio - squad number 11
No, barriers aren't erected at any ground these days.
At Bangor City - the two opposing sets of fans even change ends at half-time!!*

Sorry at St Mary's there is a line of Police/stewards between the Home fans and Way. Away are all in a corner on the Northam end.

*Non League teams all seem to do this. In my experience.

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