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What a peice of work is Man

Post 1

Bluebottle

Started conversation Mar 7, 2002

Just wondering, how exactly do Americans pronounce "man"? How is it different from the Southern/West Country/Yorkshire/Birmingham/Dorset & Isle of Wight/Midlands/Geordie/Scouse/Scottish/Welsh/Irish/Australian/Canadian/South African etc. pronunciation of the word "man", and are there regional variations within America itself?

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Post 2

Gnomon: ciabatta and mortadella

Posted Mar 7, 2002

Listing all those places together makes it sound like they all pronounce "man" in the same way! The broadest pronunciation of "a" in England is probably the North of England. This is the "a" sound of Anglo-Saxon. The southern pronunciation of "a" is more closed, part of the way towards being an "e" sound, particularly, the "upper class" way of saying it. This is similar to the American pronunciation. This is the ae sound of Anglo-Saxon.

I know this is not very clear, but it is very difficult to describe in words, because there is such a variation among English speakers.

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Post 3

Steve K.

Posted Mar 7, 2002

I don't think there is much variation of the pronunciation of "man" in the USA ... unless you happen to be a Reggae musician, in which case it is "mon". smiley - cool

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Post 4

Wand'rin star

Posted Mar 8, 2002

i before e, except after c, in modern English smiley - star

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Post 5

Gnomon: ciabatta and mortadella

Posted Mar 8, 2002

We always used to say "I before E except after C, except in the case of C.I.E." CIE was the national transport company.smiley - biggrin

Many people know the rule but don't know where it should be applied. They get confused when they come across words like vein. The I before E rule only applies when the sound is "ee", so we have sieze, achieve and conceive.

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Post 6

Steve K.

Posted Mar 10, 2002

It is weird science that makes one want to forfeit caffeine. smiley - coffee

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Post 7

Gnomon: ciabatta and mortadella

Posted Mar 10, 2002

Not wanting to ever forfeit caffeine, I have to admit that the rule is of limited use, because of the large number of exceptions.

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Post 8

Bluebottle

Posted Mar 11, 2002

I was taught the rule was:
"i before e except after c, where the "ie" ryhme with d".
Hence exceptions like "weird" etc, where it doesn't rhyme.

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Post 9

SeedNotHerd

Posted Jun 15, 2002

Did you mis-spell 'seize' deliberately? Was it a joke?

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Post 10

Dazi

Posted Nov 4, 2002

"I before E except after C, or when sounding like ay as in weighing or neigh."
"Man" is pronounced with the short a (or รค in German) sound found in words like "tan", "apple", "and," etc. in all the American English I've heard.

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Post 11

Gnomon: ciabatta and mortadella

Posted Nov 4, 2002

SeedNotHerd,

I misspelled seize by mistake. I confused seize and siege.

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