A Conversation for The Four Elements of Hip Hop

Tags aren't art

Post 21

Rt. Rev. Lesley Gentle

I'm super lucky, I'm currently being followed by a film crew from channel 5. I go about my daily business, earning enough money to buy heroin and then I get to lounge around in a strip club getting elegantly wasted with a background of soft pornography.

Sweet deal!

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Post 22

Smij - Formerly Jimster

I'd believe you if it weren't for the fact that Channel 5 only shows documentaries about Nazi Germany smiley - winkeye

I suppose (getting back on topic) it's the old argument about everything being art, or that the art is in 'being there': Andy Warhol made a Campbells Soup label into art; Damien Hurst doesn't even wait for the animals to *become* soup for him to artify them. A friend of mine returned from East Germany recently enthusing about the graffiti. At first you just think that the entire city was a dump with all the wall-scrawl, until you start to look at it properly and you see that the graffiti extends way up to the very tops of buildings. The youths must have risked their lives to show acts of defiance at such heights, and he said that the graffiti actually took on a level of pride for the citizens that they could stand up to the government by defacing their homes in such a way.

I don't know much about art, but I know what soups I like smiley - biggrin

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Post 23

Uncle Heavy [sic]

and the actual vandalism and destruction of property may be bad, but it doesnt prevent what it is theyre doing from being art.

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Post 24

Great Ceasers Ghost

Graffiti deserves no intelligent discussion

It's the equivelant of having an impassioned discussion about drinking at bus stops, headbanging or Nu-metal

For goodness sake grow up, cut your hair, and get a job.

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Post 25

Uncle Heavy [sic]

i was going to make a rude comment. then i read your journal about the sad deaths of famous people, and my heart softened smiley - tongueout

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